THE "ON THE TRACKS"
MAGAZINE INTERVIEW

Bob Dylan aficionados have their own magazine
devoted solely to the life and work of the legendary songwriter.
Entitled On The Tracks, this quarterly publication
published by Rolling Tomes, Inc. (970-245-4315) explores virtually
every aspect of Dylan's songs, recording sessions, concerts, films,
writing style, personal history, influences, and
other facets of his remarkable career.

Upon learning of Paul's renowned Dylan parodies
(or, as Rush often refers to them, the "Bob Zimmerman" songs),
On The Tracks conducted an interview with Paul, which was published in the
Fall 1998 edition of the magazine. The interview is reprinted below.


An On The Tracks Interview

PAUL SILHAN
Ex-coffeehouse singer Paul Silhan uses his musical talent
to transform the songs of Bob Dylan and other major artists
into entertaining parodies that receive national airplay.


OTT:  Did you create your Dylan parodies with the Rush Limbaugh show in mind?
Paul:
 Yes. Whether you're from the left or the right of the political spectrum, you can't deny that he's got a unique show!

OTT:  Any special reason you selected Dylan songs for your parodies?
Paul:
 For the first one, I was looking for a song to turn into kind of a year-end summary of the political scene. One with an "open" song architecture, that would give me freedom with lyrics and wouldn't necessarily rhyme all the time.

I thought of "Subterranean Homesick Blues" because it has a lot of images and thoughts packed into it, and it kind of jumps around. It's humorous in a way, the original.  After I'd finished it, I dropped a tape off for Rush to hear.  He just seized upon it - absolutely loved it - to my surprise.  I don't think he's a big Bob Dylan fan, necessarily, but he kept playing it over and over.  It became a "big hit" on his show.

Then the controversy about Newt Gingrich and his ethics came up.  I changed Dylan's "I Want You [So Bad]" to "They Want Newt [So Bad]."  Again, Rush just loved it.

Then finally, there was that little incident where the people down in Florida taped Newt Gingrich on their cell phone. So, I took the chorus to ["Rainy Day Women #12 & 35"] - "Everybody must get stoned!" - and changed it to "Everybody's scanning Newt's phone!"  For a third time, it was a huge hit.  Rush liked my Dylan parodies so much, he used to play them three in a row!

OTT:  You sound a lot like Dylan. Is that your true voice?
Paul:
 No, that's just for the Dylan parodies. I do have sort of a chameleon-like voice - after playing Top 40 songs for years and years, you get it down. In college, I would earn money playing in coffeehouses and lounges, singing songs from Neil Young, Stephen Stills, Paul Simon, James Taylor, and Bob Dylan.

OTT:  Are you a Dylan fan?
Paul:
 I have to admit I got a late start on appreciating Bob Dylan. I knew he was a great songwriter - that he writes really beautiful stuff. But I didn't get into his albums until I was playing in coffeehouses and people would request more Dylan songs and [by listening more to his albums] I came to appreciate just how great he really is.

OTT:  Is The Lippo Tiptoe your only album with Dylan parodies?
Paul:
 No, I put another one out, called Spinball Wizard - the title song is a takeoff on The Who's "Pinball Wizard."  It includes a take-off on [Dylan's] "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" [called "Knockin' On Heaven's Gate].

It's interesting, because Rush Limbaugh suggested using this tune. When the "Heaven's Gate" cult had notoriety, Rush had his office call to ask me if I could turn Dylan's song into "Knockin' On Heaven's Gate." I said "Hmmm . . . let me give it a try . . . I don't know how humorous a mass suicide can be!"

Then I began thinking, "Well, maybe if I just approach it from the "outer space" aspect and stay away from the suicide aspect, it would work." Rush really liked it, and also played that one a lot.

OTT:  Do you perform elsewhere?
Paul:
 Not anymore. I've got a full-time career. But whenever I get enough songs together, I put out an album. Limbaugh fans like to hear the music from the show, so there is built-in market there.

OTT:  Do you listen to the show to find out what his "hot topics" are?
Paul:
 Yes. I sometimes interject something that Rush said, too. I mean, frankly, it just enhances the chance he might play it. I've sometimes stayed up until 3 a.m. to finish something that I think would be great for the next day's show. I'll drop it off at 8:30 the next morning on my way to work in New York, and he'll have it on the air by noon. It's fun to hear my stuff on the radio.

OTT:  Do you rent a studio?
Paul:
 No, I cook my songs up here in my home studio. I use a 16-track recorder and do all the parts myself - one instrument at a time, one voice at a time. When I put it all together at the end, I'm careful to watch the synchronization and the timing on the tracks, and it sounds like a whole group is recording.

OTT:  Have you had to get permission to use Dylan's tunes?
Paul:
 No, not yet. It's a fine line. Under the "fair use" doctrine [part of the copyright law], you can use, for political commentary, etc., what otherwise would be an infringement of somebody's copyrighted material.

OTT:  I wonder if it bothers Dylan that his tunes are used to promote politically conservative ideas. He may be tired of the label "The Voice of a Generation" but I think he's demonstrated that he's just a bit more liberal than Rush!
Paul:
 I don't think he's heard my parodies, but if he ever did, I'd love to know his reaction!

OTT:  For those who might not be familiar with the Limbaugh show, what is the story behind the name"The Lippo Tiptoe"?
Paul:
 I selected the title for the rhyme, basically. When I wrote that [The Clintonian So-Slick Blues, based The Subterranean Homesick Blues], the Lippo scandal was breaking. We were learning more and more about the Raity family and how much money they put into Clinton's campaign - sending John Huang over here with bags of cash. Yet, the Clinton administration was trying to low-key it. They acted like there was nothing there - as if to say "This is no big deal; don't blow it out of propertion" - kind of tiptoeing around the whole thing. Well, "Lippo" rhymes with "tiptoe", so I used it - and it's become part of Rush's vocabulary now.

OTT:  Your parodies provide some much needed humor to break up Rush's monologue. You should ask for a paid position!
Paul:
 I'll work on it. [laughter]